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Things in the past that show you that your doubts started earlier than you thought
by sabastious ini was just talking to my wife this morning about underlining or highlighting the wt paragraphs.. when i was 13 years old i would fight with my dad because i refused to highlight the answers.. the reason was because i wanted my comment to be genuine.
i felt that highlighting the "answer" made me lean on just using that as a crutch and not truly putting it in my own words.. i still hold that argument now, and i am 26. the only reason you would ever have to highlight something in a study book would be if you needed to remember it, maybe it is fairly complicated or subtle information that could be easily forgotten.. so many times in the wt the "question" has the same phrase that's in the paragraph!
it's literally like playing connect the dots.. so what i would do is not highlight during the family study.
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586/587 the K.I.S.S. approach --- no VAT4956, Ptolemy, Josephus needed
by Alleymom innabonidus -- 17 years.
nebuchadnezzar -- 43 years.
nabonidus -- 17 years
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Crisis of Conscience now available at Amazon. Sold by Cynthia Franz.
by ScenicViewer inthis book has been out of print for some time, causing used copies to sell for $100 and more.
the price of these new ones is much more reasonable.. hard cover, $30 here.. soft cover, $26 here.. shipping is free, and ray franz' widow, cynthia, is the seller..
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Great news indeed. And an excellent and eye opening book by Ray Franz. I truly enjoyed it.
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12% of JWs Think Gay Is OK? Really?
by metatron ini was reading pat buchanan's book, "suicide of a superpower".
on page 71, he speaks about the growing acceptance of homosexuality amidst religions.
he claims that 12% of jw's think gay behavior is ok.. really?
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djeggnog - Puff away!
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FDS says - "No need to check our work. Besides, it will only make God angry."
by Crisis of Conscience inthough i no longer believe the fds is indeed appointed by god, i guess because of what has been taught to me all these years through the wtbts, i still make an effort to try and look at both sides.
and then i come across this number below, which is how i arrived at my title for this thread.
***w81 2/15 p.19 do we need help to understand the bible?***.
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Bubblegum Apotheosis - BINGO! I think you got it!
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What are the most frustrating subjects to talk about with a JW...
by Tuesday ini was just wondering what everyone here found the most frustrating to talk to jws about, list as many as you feel..
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Hey Ding. That is a great question to ask! I'm going to use it next time.
But I still expect to receive either a blank stare or a stupid answer. LOL
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FDS says - "No need to check our work. Besides, it will only make God angry."
by Crisis of Conscience inthough i no longer believe the fds is indeed appointed by god, i guess because of what has been taught to me all these years through the wtbts, i still make an effort to try and look at both sides.
and then i come across this number below, which is how i arrived at my title for this thread.
***w81 2/15 p.19 do we need help to understand the bible?***.
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@ DesirousOfChange - Before my awakening, I did wonder why it was so expensive to host an assembly/convention. But I never dreamed of questioning it.
After my awakening and finding out what really goes on, I wasn't surprised. I rarely contributed in the past, but I never did after that also.
@ awaken2004 - I completely agree with you.
@ designs - Hosed indeed.
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What are the most frustrating subjects to talk about with a JW...
by Tuesday ini was just wondering what everyone here found the most frustrating to talk to jws about, list as many as you feel..
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Failed prophecies - The usual response I've gotten is, "Yea, but have any of those hurt you in any way?"
I follow up with this face and then say, "Aren't we supposed to be truthful in the truth? If you make a prediction with the help of GOD'S SPIRIT, shouldn't you get it right?"
Well, it doesn't really matter to them I guess. Boy is that aggravating!
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FDS says - "No need to check our work. Besides, it will only make God angry."
by Crisis of Conscience inthough i no longer believe the fds is indeed appointed by god, i guess because of what has been taught to me all these years through the wtbts, i still make an effort to try and look at both sides.
and then i come across this number below, which is how i arrived at my title for this thread.
***w81 2/15 p.19 do we need help to understand the bible?***.
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designs and 00DAD - Thanks for bringing up the contribution thing. It's pretty disgusting how even asking about such a thing upsets the die hards.
I only reached the rank of ministerial servant, but I heard this talked about by an elder personally and then also read it here.
As 00DAD said, it is indeed a double standard in comparison to what is expected of the congregations.
But if you don't obey, you just make the slave's work more difficult, and also anger God!
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Atheists..... throwing the baby out with the bath water ?
by snare&racket inthis saying permeates this forum with higher frequency than most.
despite being an open atheist amongst lots of religious people in my life, i have never been accused of doing this and i have never heard this saying attributed to my choice... appart from here.. i thought it would be best to clarify why i (and i assume others) decided to leave the bible behind after leaving the wt society.. realising the wt society was wrong desroyed my world, for me it meant so much.
i had given so much to it too, it just had to be true!
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Just trying to lighten the mood. It's getting hot in 'hur'.
